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Everyone interested should read or re-read "Don't think of an elephant." by Lackoff. I just re-read my 2004 version and noticed that there was an updated version in 2014. Amazon Link
the *Democratic governor
Conservatives have tried to turn "Democrat" into a slur and you've taken the bait. If you support Democrats, don't use Conservative frames and language.
"My fellow" Democrats and Left-Wingers and Liberals, etc. need to really stop using Conservative labels and language. I highly recommend starting by reading George Lakoff's "Don't Think of an Elephant". Buy it or get it from your library. If you don't live in a Conservative shithole, your library should have several copies.
Thanks for a thoughtful defense of pessimism. You might like George Lakoff. He makes an interesting case for how to shift the national conversation.
If you are interested, maybe check out one of Lakoff's books like "Don't Think of an Elephant. This critique rings true for me as I work in community mental health, mostly with children and families. I see the impact of differing parenting strategies/structures every day. I am biased I'm sure, but I think securing funding for basic access to healthcare, education and mental health services for children would go a long way towards solving our problems in this country. The right-wing worldview is not pro-social and in some cases is downright anti-social. Lakoff puts forward a number of solutions for this problem.
I agree that the structure of our democracy most likely needs to be altered. This could mean moving towards a parliamentary system and/or it should include efforts to increase voter participation and civil society.
Stand up for our progressive values and quit letting conservatives frame the debate to their liking. And read this fucking book!
>which is just too absurd to even debate.
Both of us see the world differently. Our frameworks of understanding and interpreting the world stand in complete opposition on what we're talking about. That's why you don't understand what I'm saying. You should read George Lakoff. I think you'll find it informative... especially relating to this debate.
I recommend, The ALL NEW Don't Think of an Elephant!: Know Your Values and Frame the Debate
Oh, this is all straight out of the Orwellian playbook and is basic framing--getting your opposition to work within your metaphors to control the parameters of the debate. Other classic examples include:
- "compassionate conservatism"
- The "Clear Skies Initiative" -- a watered down version of the Clean Air Act.
- No Child Left Behind
- Tax Relief
- Clean Coal
The upshot is that, when spotted, these are tells that clearly mark weakness.
They may be, but the average Jane Joe Republican Trump supporter may not onboard as most people think?
Dad "AKA Trump", has gotten off the deep end, there is a point when the kids "leave", there is, it's science. And Trump is pretty gosh darn close with this McCain attacks.
LaKoff is just brilliant. It's really a required read, used like $2 bucks on Amazon. (imho)
> Ten years after writing the definitive, international bestselling book on political debate and messaging, George Lakoff returns with new strategies about how to frame today’s essential issues.
Called the “father of framing” by The New York Times, Lakoff explains how framing is about ideas―ideas that come before policy, ideas that make sense of facts, ideas that are *pro*active not *re*active, positive not negative, ideas that need to be communicated out loud every day in public.
Oldie but a goodie, required reading to understand messaging: Don't Think of an Elephant by George Lakoff.
I've heard several Trumpians slip similar terms into conversations. Just yesterday a pro-Trump friend of mine, drew a comparison between family and nation by saying: "It's like mommy's gone and daddy isn't going to put up with the same bullshit as her."
I don't know if this metaphor emerged naturally or as a byproduct of a broadly distributed theme amongst the movement. In either case, it's been fairly well-described by George Lakoff as "strict-father" v. "nurturant parent" models of political thought. From a 2004 SvN blog post:
> What the strict-father model attempts to accomplish is this: it is assumed children have to learn self-discipline and self-reliance and respect for authority. Now another important part of this model, in America but not in other countries, has to do with what happens when such children mature. The slogan, “eighteen and out,” is common. The mature children are supposed to be off on their own as soon as possible. Good parents don’t interfere in their lives. If the nation is the family and the government is the parent, in the strict-family model, the government shouldn’t meddle in their lives.
> When I looked at the liberal model of the family, I found it a very different model. It assumes the main thing a parent has to do is care for and care about his child. It is through being cared for and cared about that children become responsible, self-disciplined and self-reliant. The purpose is to make children become nurturers, too. Obedience for children comes out of love and respect for parents, not out of fear of punishment. Instead of punishment, you have restitution.
If you don't want to buy/read the books, here are some digestible references:
- http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2003/10/27_lakoff.shtml
- http://www.questioningchristian.com/2004/11/strictfather_co.html
Longer reads for those more interested:
On Amazon. There's a free audiobook as well.
Sorry, who's hatred are you referring to? I don't hate anyone so you must not be pretending to know my heart?
I can learn and so can you. You should take a gander at George Lackoff and the conservative moral hierarchy
https://press.uchicago.edu/books/excerpt/2016/lakoff_trump.html
Or his book
https://www.amazon.com/dp/160358594X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_j5vwFbD427EKB
An obvious scholar and listener of both sides such as yourself should have no trouble. When you are finished, hmu and we can discuss.
WE DONT FEAR YOU.
WE DONT FEAR YOU.
WE DONT FEAR YOU.
WE DONT FEAR YOU.
"'You cannot accept that we don't fear you'"
I've pointed this out a few times, Trump is a "Father Figure", and it's a CLASSIC Father that abuses his wife and children, year, after year, after year. And they take the abuse. But yet the wife and kids will stay. Until one day, "Dad" goes too far. The kid's rebel.
Trump supporters are wired to "LOVE DAD", but one day Dad goes too far, and the kids rebel, and walk out saying, "WE ARE NO LONGER AFRAID OF YOU, DAD!" That happens. The sense of freedom is unbelievable.
A Trump supporters brain can be rewired, it takes a very strong jolt of reality to do it, but this could.
PLEASE read Lakoff, ($4 on Amazon used will CHANGE your life) he is brilliant at taking apart the "Father Figure" aspect of Trump voters. And one day, the kids do leave. It's not impossible to reprogram a brain. Think this quote by AOC will live on in the history of Ameria, for generations. 4 women, take on Dad, and he will crumble. It can happen.
"You cannot accept that we don't fear you'" 1000 years from now, they'll look back at AOC, and the teachers of the day will say to the 3rd graders, "See what you are capable of? Yes, these women changed the world, you can too."
> Ten years after writing the definitive, international bestselling book on political debate and messaging, George Lakoff returns with new strategies about how to frame today’s essential issues.
Called the “father of framing” by The New York Times, Lakoff explains how framing is about ideas―ideas that come before policy, ideas that make sense of facts, ideas that are *pro*active not *re*active, positive not negative, ideas that need to be communicated out loud every day in public.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/160358594X/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0
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